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Tracy Hardy

Posts 6
Hi,

I know a couple of good photographers who don't have time to use photo stock sites and so am thinking that I might get their photos and upload them on their behalf and then get a percentage of their sales.

If there is anyone out there who is doing the same or has any advice, can you email me on
[email protected]

Many thanks
Tracy

photosearch

Posts 3
What a great idea Tracey, just go and get their pictures. I am sure you could make some money skimming off the top. If this site pays out 30 percent of the sale to the photographers what kind of cut would you take?

Tracy Hardy

Posts 6
I was thinking 30% but was wanting to see if anyone else was doing the same and if people are staggering the percentage over time, possibly from 30% in the first year to 25% in the second. I am not sure really. I just think there are so many busy photographers who don't have time to upload.

If anyone else decides to do this, keep in touch so we can share ideas. The Donkey Club!!

Canon_S.I.

Posts 283
If everyone was to get their mates or acquaintances images on here, then where would us honest photographers be?There's enough photographers joining each week for us to compete with never mind friend of a friend ect.If you can't join as a photographer or have the time too, then your obviously to good or lazy to submit your work,but cheap enough to take a cut of a submitters upload,does not make sense and should not be encouraged.

absolut_thomas

Posts 24
Thanks for posting exactly what I think about this, Canon S.I.

We should rather try to get some kind of incentive programme going, which gives us a share of what photographersmake that we recommend to MCB, instead of uploading other peoples images and increase competition through that.

Thomas

fatsprat

Posts 135
You can't upload someone else's image if you operate within your contract with Chillybin, you must own the copyright over any images you upload. All stock libraries operate in that way as far as I know.

photosearch

Posts 3
Canon SI - I am not sure what your point is about "honest photographers". The fact is this site that looks to be an open community - if you can operate a point and shoot camera and take a photo that isn't a disaster then it's likely that your photos will be accepted. Most of the images on here are done by hobbyists by the looks and loads join up every week so I think you will need to get over your fears of competition!

absolut_thomas

Posts 24
This tread is kind of amusing... 2 "photographers" which haven't uploaded any of their own work discussing the pros and cons of uploading other peoples images *rofl*

Tracy Hardy

Posts 6
Regarding the copywrite, I have contacted mychillybin and they thought my idea was a good one and encouraged me to do it. So I don't think that they would have said that if it was against the rules. I was always planning to use the names of the photographers.

One top stock photographer (in the world) is Yuri Arcurs, I contacted him years ago about his success and he told me that he had two people full time uploading his photos and thinking of keywords and computerwork while he carried on what he does best, taking photos. Do a search for him, he is a really good example of the money that can be made in this industry.

Also, the bigger picture needs to be looked at. If we are out there for the success of mychillybin then we should welcome every new person uploading photos whether they are the ones that push the button or not. This will make the site bigger and bigger. Mychillybin will be able to market themselves as a bigger site having however many thousand photos and photographers to choose from. Then more people will go to the site.

At my company we use an international stock site and many times go back and look for similar photos with the same keywords, if we start to run out of options due to limited photos then we get frustrated and possibly will stop using that stock site and they loose our business. This is not something mychillybin would want having. The more photos the better.

The reason why I don't have any photos up is that I have recently moved back to the country and signed up to mychillybin. I am a photographer during day so my photos have my work copywrite on them so I can't use them and then sometimes don't always want to take photos on my days off. But I do plan to long term. I do have photos on other international stock sites but mychillybin wants NZ photos which I have to build up.

I hope this adds another perspective to the postings, I don't think the honest/dishonest photographers view is a good one for a stock site in which everyone should be cheering each other along with sales. I think a lot of people on here are happy/proud that people buy their photos and the money is just an extra bonus. If the site gets bigger, more money will roll in, and we all like money!

Canon_S.I.

Posts 283
Photosearch,going by your extensive portfolio you don't even belong here so have no right posting any comments about anything,especially photographers and photography in general, as you have been a member for over 2 years and haven't even posted 1 photo on the site.And by the way,i love and enjoy competition from Anyone that does there own workAnyone that hasn't had a photo loaded should be barred from posting in the forums,as it makes me feel they have no idea what is involved with the uploading process and criteria that mychillybin require.

If you don't understand my point, it's quite simple,if you sign up as a photographer,submit your OWN work, not 50% your own work as the post processing is the most labour intensive part of the photography process.Anyone can go push a button say 1,000 times a day and expect to get a few keepers out of that many.I feel for the people that have to sort out Yuri Arcurs photos as a large percentage will be rubbish for one reason or another.

photosearch

Posts 3
This post originally was about uploading on behalf of photographers, I have every right to post here as I am considering doing this. If the site owners have no problem with it then it's all good. I understand what is involved, it's not rocket science.

Rosie

Posts 157
Hi Folks

Just want to add our 2 cents in to this healthy debate…

Contributing photographers must own the copyright to all images submitted to the mychillybin site. This is covered in the legals and you will appreciate that this is standard practice amongst image libraries, both local and international.

An option therefore, for photographers who love the shooting but not so keen on the uploading is to hand over the copyright to the uploader for the purposes of ‘uploading to mychillybin’. This would be a personal (and we recommend a written) arrangement between you and the uploader. This may work for some photographers and not for others.

It is possible that photographers are already having assistance with uploading due to time restraints and maybe doing this by providing the uploader with their mychillybin password. This is just a friendly reminder that sharing of your password is also covered in the legals. That is, members are not to disclose their password to others, to prevent the unlikely but possible risks associated with this.

We look forward to hearing more from you all on this intriguing topic…..

The Chillys
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